Make Compost in the Snow with the JoraForm Compost Tumbler


Alright! This is John Kohler with growingyourgreens.com
. Today I have another exciting episode for you, and this episode is because I got a big
problem. Well, firsts off, actually, I don’t like at problems as problems, I like to look
at it as challenges and something I could overcome or a hurdle, much like one of those
little hurdles that those people in the track and field have to jump over, right. So I can
overcome my problem today. And my problem is this- all this leftover food scraps. I
tend to eat a lot of fresh fruits in my diet. And besides growing your own greens and eating
vegetables, which are some of the most nutrient dense foods on earth, the next class of best
things to eat, in my opinion, are the fresh fruits. So I eat a lot of fresh fruits. And
unfortunately that leaves me with a lot of fruit peels. And actually this time of the
year, these are actually sweet lime peels. And this time of the year it’s citrus season,
so I have a lot of citrus to compost. Now normally they don’t recommend citrus, composting
citrus, because it doesn’t break down well. But I like to compost it anyways. And we’ll
talk more about that particularly in just a little bit. But the challenge I’m having today is I
can’t get rid of my compost fast enough. And some of you guys might be thinking, “John
just put it out in your garbage”. Well, no, I don’t want to waste good, valuable
food scraps and put it in the garbage to go to the landfill. That helps nobody. I want
to use this to break it down to rich fertile soil so that I can enrich my garden and grow
even healthier crops. But the challenge I’m having today is that I can’t put all these
food scraps into my compost bin because my compost bin broke. So actually let’s head
over to compost bin and show you the problem or challenge that I’m having. As you could see, this is my 3 sons, 1, 2,
3, or actually my 3 compost bins. We have a static compost bin here that basically doesn’t
work too well. And then I have a video actually where I build these two guys. And actually
this barrel tumbler is working pretty good. It’s actually quite full and heavy. And
this one in the middle is actually the Lifetime Compost Tumbler that I built and had a video
about, and check it out. The problem with this guy is check it out man, it’s got so
much compost in there, it just literally busted up and just broke open. So besides, you know, smelling not too nice,
because it can’t be working if it’s all busted up. I’ve got to contact the company
and see if they’re going to honor their 5 year warranty on this unit. You know, I’m
at a standstill for composting, so I can’t compost anymore because these barrels are
full. This one actually busted out and that one’s full. And I need a solution. So actually
what happened was actually I went online and researched compost bins. And, you know, I
don’t want this plastic stuff that’s going to break again. I want to get a good composter
that’s going to work and even work more effectively than these guys. Now yes, this
guy actually I got for free. My brother gave it to me because he won it, of all things.
This guy I got at Costco for about 50 bucks. And if I had to do it again, Id probably get
another one for 50 bucks because 50 bucks is really cheap. Normally these sell for like
a 100 plus. And if I had to buy it for 100, knowing what I know now that it broke, I probably
wouldn’t get one again. So I got online and started researching in depth composters.
Because, you know, I firmly believe that it’s far better to buy, you know, a good product
that’s built well once and even if you got to spend more, right, that’s going to last
a long time than to keep buying plastic crap that’s going to break and you have to keep
replacing it. Because it’s just a lot of headache, you know, and I don’’t know,
I’m going to have to empty this out and see what happened and then see if I could
make it right and get the parts if they’re going to honor the warranty and all this stuff. So what I did is I got online and researched
and I found the best composter, you know, made out of metal. One of the reasons why
I chose this composter is not only is it made out of metal but it’s also insulated. It’s
insulated so that even in the cold weather, and yeah it not too cold here compared to
where some of you guys are. You can compost when it’s snowing outside in this composter
because it’s insulated. And this composter actually comes to us from Sweden. It was designed
in Sweden and so it’s, you know, it works in Sweden. If it will work in Sweden, it will
work anywhere. So in this video what we’re going to do is actually we’re going to go
inside, I’m going to show you this brand new composter that just got shipped to me.
I’m going to build and assemble it for you guys so you guys could see the process. And
then I’m going to set it up and start composting, and share my special tips and tricks so that
you can get successful results composting in the hot summer or even in the snow. Now we’re inside and you could see behind
me I have two nice sized boxes. One weighs actually 52 lbs , the other one weighs about
35 lbs. And the composter, my new composter is contained within these two boxes. You could
also see in the top here, it has a website, www.joraform.se . So that is the website of
the manufacturer , they are located in Sweden. So, you know, this is a designed unit in Sweden
and works outside, yes, even during the winter time in Sweden. So if it will work in Sweden,
where I think it’s colder than the US except maybe for Alaska, it will work wherever you
live. So that’s why I really like this product because it’s a little different than all
the other composters that I’ve researched, you know. And like my plastic ones that degraded
and messed up, this one’s actually going the horizontal direction. So, you know, the
barrel composter I have is like the vertical composter. I don’t tend to like that. I
learned that it just didn’t really work, so well I like the ones that are the horizontal
style. So, you know, this is a horizontal style but it’s made out of galvanized metal
and it’s also powder coated. And in addition, it has insulation in there. And the insulation
I think is the key to why this composter is good besides that it’s very high quality
unlike many of the other composters out there. This is probably the last composter you’re
going to buy. In any case, I guess without further ado,
let’s go ahead and open up these boxes and show you guys what’s inside and then I actually
will show you how it is to assemble. I got my handy little razor here and we’re going
to go ahead and open this guy up. Alright! It’s a double box, so I like that, protects
the contents on the inside. So it’s all nice and wrapped up inside here in a padded,
bubble, that’s really good. And here’s the composter itself. You could see man, this
is like really nice construction. Powder coated metal. And on the inside we’ve got basically
insulation. So this is what allows this composter to work even in the snow. The other thing besides letting this work
in the snow, the other reason for the insulation whether it’s the summer or the winter time,
it will allow the compost inside this composter to, you know, reach a 160 degrees, that’s
fahrenheit, and that’s an extremely hot temperature. In that hot temperature, certain
bacteria thrive in that temperature and will even, you know, start eating the items or
the things that they’re composting inside the compost bin faster. So that means your
compost will be done faster in this composter than say another composter. And guess what?
When your compost turns over faster, that means you’re generating more compost to
feed your garden and, you know, that’s just going to save you money in the long run because
it’s far cheaper to make your own compost, specially with food scraps that you would
normally throw out, than to buy new compost. I mean, some designer composts, and yes they
have designer composts out there, one cubic foot can cost like 10 bucks. That’s insane,
man! With this thing, it’s actually the 270, the JoraForm Composter 270. It can hold
270 liters of compost, that’s about 70 gallons for us in the US, you know. A material to
make a whole bunch of compost. Now before I go on, I want to say that I ordered this
composter from compostingwarehouse.com . They shipped it really fast and I just had it within
a few days. So I guess next I’m going to go ahead and unbox everything., and start
assembling. So I got the first box unpacked and that basically
has all the insulated outer panels. So in this is probably the frame and some other
parts. So let’s check it out. Once again, this is double boxed, so I like
that a lot. It’s going to protect the contents from the inside. Here we go. More stuff! So
one of the cool things about this composter, unlike my other composters, those are just
basically one single compost bin that you just got to, you know, work it till it’s
done. So in that case, it might be really good to have two different ones. You can actually
fill one composter and let that finish and while that’s going, because once you got
it full it takes a while for it to compost down. Then you’re going to fill the second
bin and get that going. By that time your second bin is full, and then you could empty
the first bin because that’s going to be done. That’s why I have two composters set
up outside. With this one, it’s a really smart design. This is like only one composter
you’ll need because in this composter there’s a little center section. So what this effectively
does is actually effectively makes this into two smaller sized composters. So that you
could compost in one half till it’s completely full and fill it up, then you fill up the
other side till it’s completely full. And by the time you’re done filling up the other
side, provided you’re not generating too much waste, the first half will be done and
you could empty out all the compost in the first side. And then you just repeat the process.
You could have a continual supply or never ending supply of compost as long as you always
have some food scraps or other materials to put in this composter. So I’m going to go ahead and take this out,
take all these parts out and then actually I’m going to go ahead and go over the instructions
and I’m going to start assembling my brand new JoraForm composter. Now I got all of the boxes unpacked, and here
are all the parts that I’m going to need except for two that couldn’t fit in the
camera shot, to assemble my JoraForm composter. Now, you know, after looking over all these
different parts, I could definitely say they’re very high quality, specially compared to some
of the other, you know, tumbling compost bins I have owned and assembled in the past. So
I definitely like that a lot. One other thing is this manual is actually,
you know, written in Swedish and using, I don’t know, European English versus American
English. It says on the front- Tools: 2 pieces of spanner 13 mm, two pieces of adjustable
spanner, one spanner 14 mm and cross slotted screwdriver. What the hell is a spanner? Well,
I looked it up on Google, Google’s my best friend, spanner is a wrench and I kind of
figured that it was a wrench but I wasn’t sure what kind of wrench, if it was like a
box-end in wrench or open-end wrench or, you know, adjustable spanner I guess would be,
you know, adjustable end wrench. So the regular 13 mm spanners are probably just like regular
box-end. Actually I got a few tools today and these are all the tools you are going
to need to assemble it. So it really doesn’t take much. Got a flat head screwdrivers, a
Philips screwdriver and a couple ratchets, Craftsman ratchets it’s really good. I got
two of the 13 mm and one in a 14 mm. So that means that’s relatively few tools. Now the
thing that I’m looking at now is that, you know, I’ve put a cardboard, piece of cardboard
down, actually part of the cardboard box, as a work surface. Because these are painted
surfaces that are actually powder coated surfaces so you want to make sure, you know, if you’re
doing this on a sidewalk or concrete, you don’t want to like scratch that against
your nice painted surface, it will kind of mess it up. So I put some cardboard down to
protect my work surface and protect also the nice paint here. So you could see how all
the different parts laid out here, mainly there’s all these parts that go around to
make the tumbler, two are not shown, and a whole bunch of the other parts. The first step is to actually assemble the
base and then once you got the base assembled, you’re going to assemble the composter on
top of the base. So one of the things about the instructions, I mean, they’re adequate
because they’re full instructions. They could have had it a bit more step by step
with the wording maybe done a little bit differently. But you know I’ll be able to figure it out. Here it gives you a nice page of English on
how to, you know, mount what to what. Although in each step I wish they had specific pictures
showing what to do. But for those of you guys that could figure stuff out, it’s not going
to be an issue. Instead of actually going over the written letters and trying to figure
everything out, I kind of like figured out on my own. They do have an illustrated parts
guide to show you all the different parts. So what I’m going to prefer to do is actually
just take a look at the, the picture here just shows 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and make
sure it’s basically all the parts that go together where they go and I’ll be able
to just figure it out and do it with that without any, you know, reading this specific
instructions. What I’m going to do next is actually I’m going to start a stop watch
and time how long it takes me to assemble. Also I may actually bring you in and show
you guys some of the different steps and some of the different parts and where I’m at
and the time frame it has taken me to assemble this JoraForm 270 composter. Now I’m on literally I think step 4 of the
assembly and I got part of the structure assembled. And we actually have to sandwich the insulation
material here in between these two plastic sheets. Now what this piece is, this actually
acts as the divider, insulated divider, in between the, the two independent compost bins
inside this whole composter. So this is the feature I really like because once again you
could start one load of compost now and when that side is full then start the other load.
So you could always have some compost composting in your JoraForm composter. We’re about
30 minutes in and, you know, I’m going to continue on working diligently to get this
thing built and we’ll see how long it takes me. Now we’re making some real progress. We
got the frame assembled and we got this all set up. It’s even rotating, nice smooth
action, nice and heavy duty on this main center pole. And that’s another problem I had with
my other inexpensive ones, they used just the standard cheap like one of them, the barrel
composter, uses EMTconduit which is not quite as strong as the stuff they’re
using on here. The other thing I noticed that I really like
is actually they’re using plastic hardware. So the nuts and bolts here are plastic so
that means they will not rust and they won’t, you know, go bad on you. And in addition,
they’re also using stainless steel hardware in places where they could have just used
regular ones. But you know that’s just a testament to the high quality of this piece
here. So next all I have to do is actually just
put on the sides here and then we’ll be all done. So it shouldn’t take that much
longer. And I will be back at you when I’m all finished with this composter. So this guy is actually coming together. I’m
making some good progress here. Got the good old Ryobi and I got it set on the lowest clutch
setting. You definitely do not want to strip out these guys. Basically what I’m doing
now is actually just screwing on the outer panels. Once again, this is powder coated
metal, it’s going to be durable and last you for many years to come. All I got to do
is just basically screw on each panel, go around and pretty much I’ll be done. Alright! I’m in the composter so I’m almost
done but I want to take this opportunity to share with you like why this composter is
really good in my opinion. So as you could see, I’m inside the composter and this is
actually one of the doors and there’s two chambers. I’m in chamber 1 and next door
is chamber 2. And you could see inside here there’s all this padding, and this padding
is the insulation. The insulation keeps this composter more warm than other composters
on the market. Now what’s the benefit of doing that? Well the main benefit is that
there’s going to be different bacteria in here munching on your compost. So in a standard
compost pile, there is thermophillic bacteria, you know. And if it gets too hot, they’re
not going to survive. And the problem is most compost piles cannot have a sustained hot
temperature because it’s going to cool down. Depending on the temperature in your compost
pile, different bacteria may be active, the thermophilic, the cadillac of the composters
that are going to compost your items faster. So you’re going to get even better and quicker
results in the JoraForm composter that I’m building. Well, in any case, I got to get back to building
this and then we’re going to go ahead and share with you how long it took me to build
it and then also we’re going to set it up for you guys. This is the last screw that needs to go in
my JoraForm 270 composter. Let’s go ahead and put this in. So every panel you put in
I got to like push down and screw in at the same time. So that has been a little bit of
a challenge but hasn’t been a big issue. And the thing that sucked and basically made
my time take longer is that, as you could see, I’m using a manual screwdriver now
because my Ryobi’s battery wore out. So that kind of messed me up. So after this last
screw is in, it probably will have taken me about an hour and a half to build this, to
build this composter. Now on the website it says it’s about 60 minutes to build. And
I guess that is attainable if you read the directions. I just like to follow the pictures
so it took me a little bit longer. Plus I like to take my time on building things like
this because once again, I mean, you build this thing once and it’s going to be around
for a long time, solid metal. Alright! There’s the last screw tightened
all up. This thing is quite solid, nice and hard, no major leaks, no major air seams or
nothing. Everything looks nice and solid, specially when you look on the inside it’s
nice and padded on the inside. We got the vent holes here. And make sure you line up
the vent holes so that actually this actually vents instead of going to a piece of the insulation
on the inside. Let’s see, my comments on the assembly:
worked really well, all the pieces fit together perfectly unlike some of the stuff made in
China where you, you know, got that furniture or whatever you assembled it and the holes
don’t line up. Everything lined up on this perfectly and it was pretty much a breeze
to assemble. Just took a little bit of time. No major deal. Now the one comment I do have is that this
was shipped to me and a couple of the panels like actually I think it is, no not that one,
the panel right here, I don’t know if you could see that on the video, it’s slightly
bent. Now this is not going to affect the functionality of the composter working, but
nonetheless when you’re paying this kind of money for the composter, it is quite an
annoyance. So they should definitely look in to packing this better and doing something
with the corners. Because this one was majorly bent and I just took like a pliers and bent
it back . And you could kind of see something happened but it’s not going to affect the
functionality. But some of the other ones we’re minority bent so this can be an issue
and I have read some reviews online where other people have gotten this and it’s been
majorly damaged in shipping. Now I know it’s a shipping carrier, but the whole thing is
I like to be proactive instead of reactive, so if they maybe pack this better with more
cardboard or a different kind of way then it wouldn’t have any issues like this. But
nonetheless, I’m totally happy with the small little damage that I’ll probably never
notice again once this is up and running and making good compost. So even the best composter like the JoraForm
tumbling composter 270, is not going to work properly if you don’t use it properly. I’ve
built it properly. But now we need to be able to set it up and use it properly. So what
I’m going to do next, I’m going to go ahead and pull this guy outside in the cold
weather, set it up and then show you guys how to fill it properly and how to use this
properly so that you can get the best results and turnover compost in just about a month. Now we’re outside, got the composter all
set up and before I go over this particular JoraForm composter, I want to talk about my
experiences with my other 3 composters here. So now I got a total of 4 composters here
in the back yard. So let’s go over and talk about them one by one and share with you guys
the pros and cons of each one. This is the first composter that I got. And
this is just a standard composter. Basically it just has 4 plastic sides. You put the stuff
in, and guess what? Compost happens even if you don’t do anything. But the main thing
is you got to get your nitrogen and carbon ratios right. So you got to add the right
amount of stuff. So this is a Keter brand, and the latch on the front broke off and the
latch on the back or the hinges broke off. And, you know, it hasn’t been too functional
for me. In addition, it kind of came apart and I have had this style composter where
actually rats can actually chew through the plastic to get the food on the inside. So,
you know, I don’t really recommend this style composter. They are relatively cheap.
If you want to do this style composter, I’d actually recommend you get some chicken wire
and just, you know, make a compost bin out of that, or get some tree pallets and just,
you know, make a compost bin out of that instead of buying some plastic thing like this. So the next one or the next two I got, is
right here. The next composters I got are tumbling composters that in my opinion these
are way better than the standard composter. The problem I had with this guy is that, you
know, at a certain point this center pole dropped out of this, and I kept using it and
then guess what happened now? As you could see, totally busted up. So I guess that’s
what you get when you get plastic. I like these raised composters because, you know,
they are tumbling composters, they’re going to work faster than your static piles. So
you’ll turn over your compost and make more compost quicker, you know. And compost, in
my opinion, is an essential nutrient and valuable asset to your gardening. So that’s this
guy here. I got to, I don’t know, figure out what’s going on with this. After this guy, or at the same time, I also
got this guy which is the barrel composter. This is also a tumbler and I’ve learned
after using the barrel composter, this gets actually quite heavy to spin and turn. And
I don’t tend to like the spinning composters that are going vertically like this. I like
the horizontal axis. They are easier to fill and to use. So if you are using or want to
make one of these, I’d make it the long direction instead of this direction. So because these plastic composters got full
and they weren’t working fast enough, you know, I got the next one which you saw me
just build right here and that’s this guy right here. This is the JoraForm. And now
I got to actually stand up because this is actually at a height, a nice high level. So
I like that I don’t have to bend over as much as these other guys. And this also means
when emptying your composter, you could just drive a wheelbarrow underneath here and, you
know, open it up and just dump all your content out. So the reason why I like the Joraform composter
is mainly for three reasons. Number one, the insulation that you saw earlier when I was
building it. This has the polyethylene insulation and the polyethylene insulation will keep
it warmer inside. Actually it’s a nice cold, windy day and it’s actually a few degrees
warmer on the inside. I mean it’s, the polyethylene is the same material that they make these
standard, you know, plastic bags. I always encourage you guys to get paper bags when
shopping if available. But if you’ve got to get plastic, I highly encourage you guys
to actually recycle them. Places like Target stores or Walmart you could actually take
these and recycle them, they’ll turn them into something else. Because if these just
fly away like, you know, in the air, whoa and see that one’s flying away now, there
it goes, those things actually don’t break down in nature, you know. They’ll be in
the landfill for I don’t know probably millennia. And, you know, that’s the same stuff in
here. So don’t worry this stuff is not going to break down inside the composter. It will
keep your compost warm. So I like that the insulation feature is going to keep things
warmer, which is going to allow the compost pile to happen more effectively. Second thing I like- nice metal construction.
This is definitely heavy duty construction compared to the other plastic ones. And I’m
highly confident after assembling this, this one’s not going to come apart like this
one did. Because I mean this pole is one solid pole that’s not going anywhere. So you’re
not going to have any problems with this. The third reason why I like this is that because
it is raised up it’s also rodent proof. It’s rodent proof and I’m not going to
have any problems with rodents. And finally, I like that it’s a two bin system. So over
here to have a two bin system, I literally had to have two bins where I fill up this
one first and let that work and then while that one’s working I’m filling up this
one. And then by the time this one’s full then that one will be finished and then I
could keep swapping back between them. With the JoraForm you actually have two bins so
that you could just, you know, fill this one up when that’s full then you go to that
one and go back and forth so you could have a continual supply of compost. And specially
for me that’s very important because of all the gardening I do, but more importantly
because of all the waste and compost and food scraps and garden clippings that I generate.
For that reason I like the Joraform. I mean, it’s the best composter that I’ve found
to date. I mean, it’s solid construction, designed in Sweden, works in the snow, man
it’s really cool. So even if you have the best composter like
the JoraForm, if you don’t use it properly, and this goes with any composter or any compost
pile even, if you don’t use it properly it’s not going to work for you. So let me go ahead
and share with you guys how to use this properly. Basically you need to mix your greens and
your browns. So let’s get right to it. So now you could see some of the food waste
I’ve been generating and some of the garden clippings. You’re like, “John, what the
heck are you eating, man? Looks like a porcupine!” Well this is not a porcupine, this is actually
the shell of the not necessarily the shell but the rind of the fruit I was eating actually
called jackfruit. It’s actually quite delicious. And yes, you can compost these guys. And it
will be interesting to see how these little seeds compost because they’re actually quite
hard. The other thing you’ll notice is that I do have a lot of orange peels. I like to
eat seasonally and I have a lot of orange and sweet lime and tangerine peels right now
because I’m eating a lot of citrus here in January. And you might be thinking to yourself,
“John, wait! You’re not supposed to compost citrus peels.” Guess what? In the JoraForm
composter due to the insulation and the higher heat temperatures, it will break down things
like the citrus peels. They even say it will break down things like, you know, fish bones.
And you could even put bones in there. The bones will be wiped clean and they will take
out full bones to the bacterial action. So, you know, because this composter has the insulation,
it adds a whole new dimension of composting that you were not able to access including
composting things that you normally wouldn’t be able and also have a faster turnaround
time. So I like that a lot. So besides just these wastes, which is the
kitchen scraps which is the source of the nitrogen or the greens in the composter which
we need, we also need the browns, you know. One of my challenges is that I have a whole
lot of, you know, food scraps and food wastes which are the greens but I don’t have enough
browns. The browns are things like, you know, paper and wood chips and sawdust and stuff
like that. And you need to have a nice balance or else your compost is really not going to
work effectively. So I want to be able to rip that up. So how am I going to do that?
Well, you know, in previous episodes I have mentioned you add like something like shredded
newspaper. I actually take paper bags and shred those up so we could add some of this
stuff in there. But, you know, this stuff is really light and there’s not a lot of,
you know, matter to it, you know. The goal is to add, you know, equal weights of carbon
to nitrogen. So if you add two pounds of the paper scraps you’re going to want to add
two pounds of the food waste. But this stuff hardy weighs anything and it’s best to shred
this stuff up so it will, you know, compost optimally. So because the carbon waste has
been such an issue, depending on where you live, you know, you may have access to leaves
or other things, but, that may work, but for me in the city here it can be kind of challenging
to get something that’s going to be able to add the carbon to my pile besides the,
you know, shredded paper. So what I found instead were these guys right here. These
guys are 100% pellets. Now this is actually used as the horse bedding for, you know, horses.
It’s basically pine pellets that are compressed pine sawdust and compressed under a higher
pressure with no additives, 100% pine. I did contact the manufacturer to verify this information.
And it’s very important you get the horse bedding because in a horse bedding they’re
not going to add crap to it, you know. If you get these pine pellets or, you know, wood
stove pellets, they might be adding stuff to it. So you want to definitely check you
sources of that. But by adding these guys, this will give your carbon to your pile that
it needs to work optimally. And because these are compressed, you don’t need to add that
much. So you want to add about 10% of the pellets to, you know, your food waste, so
it will, you know, compost properly. And the amazing thing is that these pellets at the
local feed store here, they’re about $7 and this bag is about 40 lbs. So this bag
will definitely last me a while to allow me to make more compost in my composter. It’s very important when adding things to
your composter to have the right recipes. So you got to have the carbon and the nitrogen.
The easy way to do that is to, once again, use equal parts of, you know, by weight, of
carbon. Whether they’re, you know, paper or, you know, sawdust or leaves to the same
amount of weight as carbon. Now I know for you techies out there, that’s “John, that’s
not the right ratio, the optimal ratio”. Well, that’s absolutely correct, but I want
to make it easy for you guys. And if you use that ratio, you’re going to get far better
results than not adding enough carbon, which is, in my opinion, what most people do specially
if you’re generating a lot of food waste. The easy way to do that is to use the pellets
there and just add 10% of the pellets because the pellets are compacted. It will expand
when your compost is wet like many of the composts that I’m adding today. So that’s what we’re going to do. We’re
going to go ahead and add in our wastes. And you could see here we got the oranges. And
I like that these guys open up and we just literally dump these guys in. And check it
out. Dump it in there, all my food waste. And the cool thing is to get my 10% of the
pellets instead of just adding them, I add the pellets to the bottom of my 5 gallon bucket,
you know, just about 10% worth of the bucket. And then when the food gets in there, it soaks
up the extra moisture so that it doesn’t mess up my bucket and make it all nasty and
rancid. And also it’s in there when I dump it. So it makes mixing really easy. So there’s some of the food scraps and the
pine pellets. And the cool thing about this composter is that you could fill it up like
90% full. So we got a ways to go. That was one 5 gallon bucket. Let’s keep going. Now
besides the food scraps, also got some yard clippings. So we got some tree collard leaves
and things from my garden that I pulled up. Now it’s very important to use all the resources
on your site, whether they’re food scrap resources or garden clippings. I mean, this
is like high quality stuff right here man. This is grown in rock dust minerals and has
all the nutrients that the plants pulled out of the soil. But now we’re going to actually
put this back into our compost pile so that we could continually enrich and rebuild our
soil. So let’s go ahead and put this stuff in here. Oh man, this looks like the optimal
size container to use to fill up the JoraForm because it fits perfectly. This is just a
sqaure, I believe 5 gallon bucket. My brother gave it to me when he had a cat called Scoopaway.
So we got that in there now. Looks like we’re maybe about, I don’t know, almost half way
full. Let’s keep adding some stuff. Next we got some jackfruit peel. So it’s
best to, you know, cut up the jack fruit peel or tear it up into smaller pieces. And that’s
going to allow it to work faster. But we’re just going to dump it whole and see what the
heck happens. Oh and check it out, got a lot of cactus fruit peels too. This is all the
food scraps I’ve been eating for the last couple days. I’ve been saving them. We got
more room. We’re going to add more food scraps. Once again, more citrus. So this will
be interesting to see how this does. And of course, besides citrus we got other things
in there. We got some napkins and some greens and mango skins and all kinds of stuff. And
as you could see I had my pre-mix in there, had the pellets in the bottom. Alright, makes
cleaning up a lot easier. So I mean, this is pretty full now. We’re
getting pretty good. I think what we’re going to do is we’re going to go ahead and
close this up. But before I do it, I want to talk about compost activators, you know.
At the garden store or your local nursery, they sell little compost activators. And,
you know, in my opinion, that stuff’s a waste of money. You don’t need it, you know.
While it may help your compost and it’s probably not going to hurt it, I think there’s
a far better compost activator that you already have in your garden. Guess what it is? It’s
old compost! So here’s some compost from my garden. And what we’re going to do is
we’re just going to add like a little 1 gallon pot into the bin. And guess what? This
is going to inoculate the compost with the bacteria that’s going to start breaking
this stuff down so that you’ll be able to have compost sooner instead of later. Besides the compost, there’s one last thing
that I highly encourage you guys to add that will make your compost work even better, and
actually make the end result even better too, that’s this stuff right here. This is the
rock dust or azomite. We’re going to just go ahead and sprinkle that in. A little small
cup here. Now what this is going to do, this is going to add the trace minerals to your
pile so that when your compost comes out, it has, it’s pre-inoculated with the trace
minerals. But this stuff will also make the bacteria go crazy. They love the rock dust
and the trace minerals it provides. You know, I want to feed the compost and give it everything
it needs to have the best possible results. I mean, like us. If we eat junk food, we’re
probably not going to be so healthy. But if you eat fresh food out of your garden, you’re
going to be healthy. So eat the right things and you could be healthy. But guess what?
Feed your compost pile the right ratios and the right stuff, and it’s going to be healthy
and work for you too. So now we get to go ahead and close this up,
lock it up. And I like that this guy has actually locking metal brackets to lock the door shut.
It’s nice and solid here. And, you know, if you’re scared about somebody stealing
your compost, you could put a lock on it. This may be a specially good if you’re in
an apartment complex and you got them people that come and steal your compost at night. Alright, so once you got it full, you just
rotate it. And one of the things I like is that every other side has a handle on it,
so you could easily turn this. And this is nice and heavy duty. So now because it is
full, all I need to do is come out once a day and just give it a spin. And in just as
short as about a month or a month and a half, you’ll have some rich compost. So let’s see here, we’re going to go ahead
and we spun that a little bit. And let’s see how well mixed it looks. Alright, so there
it is. As you could see, I even got dryer lint in there. But everything is mixed. I
got the greens and a whole bunch of citrus and, you know, I could probably even add a
little more stuff. So let’s actually add some newspaper. Close it up. We’ll spin
it up. Alright, I really like the height on this
so I don’t have to bend. And I really like the handles. Some of the problems with the
other composters that I have is that it doesn’t have easy handles that makes turning a breeze.
So with this one it is. And it’s all metal on metal, spins really nice and easily. So I guess that’s pretty much it for this
episode, you know, building my brand new composter. I’m quite happy I chose the JoraForm 270
composter. It’s definitely heavy duty. And whether in the wind, cold, snow or the heat
in the middle of summer, this guy is going to keep your compost warmer so that it happens
faster and you could enrich your garden that much sooner. Be sure to stay tuned for future episodes
where I’m going to do, you know, comparisons on how this is working over time and give
you guys the updates. But so far so good. This is probably the most heavy duty composter
that I have found to date. So I want to give you guys a quick update
on the JoraForm composter. Check it out- my compost is a brewing and check it out, man.
Look at all that heat coming out of there. And this stuff and only after a week. And
man, it’s a cold day, it’s nice to put my hands in there. This guys is probably running
at about 150 degrees. I’m going to soon have a compost thermometer to show you guys
how that works and how hot this temperature gets. But man this is really nice on a cold
day to warm up. Imagine like sitting in front of your compost pile instead of the fire. So, you know, I had a really good success
with this so far. Be sure so stay tuned for future updates on my JoraForm composter and
how it’s working. And before I go I want to let you guys know that I’ve negotiated
a special deal on these guys for you. These guys normally retail at $389, and that’s
a lot of money for a composter absolutely. But what I can tell you after building it
and using it, this by far is the best composter that I ever experienced and used. I mean,
this is how all composters should be built, out of metal, insulated. I mean, it just works
good as long as you fill it appropriately and with the proper mixture that I show in
this video. So I scoured the internet for a couple hours trying to find the best price.
And you know what, I found a bunch of places selling the unit for $369 including shipping.
And that in itself is a good deal because this guy is I think like 80 lbs between the
two boxes. And shipping to some parts of the US can cost a lot of money. So what I have
done is I have negotiated with the Boogie Brew people, the good old people at Boogie
Brew that have given you many deals in the past. They’re now going to be offering this
composter for the lowest delivered price that I found. Plus they’re going to include a
sample of their compost tea. So you could now make your own compost, brew your own compost
tea and you’re going to have some of the best garden soil in the world. So to get this
deal, be sure to check the link below. It’s boogiebrew.net/gyg . They’re going to have
a special page with the special delivered low price to the US 48 states. I recommend
you guys get the 270 model. That’s the model I have here. They do have a smaller model
that’s, you know, just a little bit less money. I wouldn’t really recommend that
model. If you want to move up, they have a 400 model that’s even larger. But what I
recommend is actually buying two of the 270s instead of the larger 400 because two of the
270s is going to hold more capacity than the 400 model and also actually be approximately
the same price. So hope you guys enjoyed this episode learning
about my brand new composter. I’m excited to be using it and generating some compost
really quick style now. Once again, my name is John Kohler with growingyourgreens.com
. We’ll see you next time, and remember- keep on growing.

100 thoughts on “Make Compost in the Snow with the JoraForm Compost Tumbler

  1. I agree.Gardening does not HAVE to cost any money.There are LOW/NO COST ways to garden that I often show on my show,I also like to use technology&tools(such as the composter) to make my garden EVEN better in my opinion.As you see I generate ALOT of compost and my current composters could NOT keep up with the amount that I generate here. IMO the Jora tumbler is EASIER than a pile for a NEWBIE composter like me:) Once again my goal is NOT to garden on the cheap,its to GROW the BEST FOOD on Earth

  2. I did purchase another once recently… from craigslist for $60.. So stay tuned for that episode!

  3. Depsite the fact I didn't use it correctly according to the instruction manual and from your personal experience, it is working great for me, a testament to how "forgiving" this composter is and how it just makes it simple for people who have not composted before. Stay tuned for future episodes that show this thing is kicking some royal butt.

  4. Hmmm, I wonder if you would use that model and make something like that out of wood, and the wood is probably about as good an insulator as styrofoam and metal? Paint or oil the inside and you could make something like that for maybe $100.

  5. Paying for 1/2 of the compost, the "browns" would hurt a lot – even if it was only $7 a load, as would just being able to dump 2 days worth of scraps. You have a massive backup in the making there. That would be like trying to dispose of your human waste buy flushing it out through a doll house toilet.

    Someone needs to invent a personal sized digester for compost because that is only going to back up more and more, you need major throughput on a vegetarian diet.

  6. John, you might get even faster composting by preprocessing your scraps. For example, after squeezing those oranges and some others put the peels through your Breville and let it shred it up to real small pieces and add the waste and juice into your bucket with the pellets.

  7. I made one like the one your brother gave you out of a craigslist acquired foodsafe plastic barrel with screw lid, some scrap 2×6 for a frame, and a metal pipe to mount it. Works pretty well, but when it's full it's quite heavy to spin.

  8. I don't understand why some people are giving John a hard time about these deals or spending money on gardening. I've been thankful for the deals he offers, they benefit me and everyone else who buys them. Thank you John, and thank you Josh from boogie brew for hooking me up with a replacement package that arrived damaged.

  9. I just watched a vid on biodigesters where they use an garbage disposal over a bucket to grind up the waste scraps.

  10. Part of the issue is the product endorsements being made I think. For a long term subscriber,John seems to be moving away from his long term content to pushing products. I did find one deal through John I thought was good, those purple growums. I bought the remaining 6 at Lowes in my region for $10 each last summer. However, it would be nice if he disclosed any endorsements.

  11. If you live in a city, your local landfill most likely has compost it can resell to you cheap by the ton. Our city sells it for $20 a ton. That's like 50 bags they sell at the big box stores for $4 to $5 a bag. Our city's compost is far better than the bagged stuff too. All the compost is / was collected yard waste like grass and leaves.

  12. 12 years ago made a compost frame from reclaimed wood. It stands 4 ft. by 6 ft. and 4 ft. high. Living in Canada means I can only get to it during the growing season.Winter time has its own challenge. To save all our kitchen scraps I set up two Rubber-made garbage cans outside which get dumped into the bin come spring. Once turned in and covered the smell is gone.The trick here is to toss the compost a few times over the next few weeks and let the worms do their thing

  13. The problem with citrus is that it makes your compost highly acidic, to counter this you can simply add a highly alkaline ingredient like wood stove ashes (do not use charcoal ash!). Remember, you want to maintain the most neutral pH possible. Cheers.

  14. Hi John. Thank you for this video. I think next year I will start composting, so I will be a newbie next year : )) Until then, should I start practicing using a plastic trash can? Also, I've been reading a little about 'bale gardening', do you have any suggestions on this? Thank you thank you thank you !!! You are my garden hero : ))

  15. Sorry for being off topic; however, I've been watching many of your video's over the last couple of days and had the following questions. Many plants get root rot when over watered. How is that prevented in Aquaponics? Also, ideally we would plant cool season plants in the fall/winter; however, can they be grown during the summer with success? live in Texas when summers are 100+ at times. Have some shady locations that doesn't get as hot. Can I grow it indoors with a/c? What is min temp?

  16. Plants in Hydroponics and Aquaponics don't get root rot because the water is highly aerated. Whether by air stones and air pumps or by other methods.

  17. Build potato boxes, just wood boxes. Mine work great even in Midwest winters they are filled with worms. They have no floor. Look up seph holzer and permaculture.

  18. One question: what the hell is designer compost and why it so awesome and expensive? Is made from composted golden leaf or truffles?

  19. John, I get why you are doing this. We bought the Mantis ComposT-Twin composter a while back. While the equipment itself is fine (well constructed, etc.) we just never found ourselves using it much. I would imagine that it is because we also have animals and are able to feel many scraps to them, and then use their manure for compost. I hope you get a lot of great compost from your new composter.

  20. Wish I could get boogie brew deals in Canada. They should set something up. Lots of customers up here would love to buy from them I'm sure.

  21. John,

    You've had several episodes on vermiculture, and many people have great success composting kitchen scraps (including citrus peels) this way (i.e. with worms)? As you've said, worms can digest about their weight per day once they get accustomed to their home. If you bought 10lbs of worms and put them in bin with you compost, don't you think they might be able to turn your scraps into compost in less than the 30 day claimed for straight composting with this tumbler?

    Just wondering.

  22. You seem to know about compost… On the advice of friends who know more then me, I added alfalfa pellets (rabbit food) to my compost in about the same ratio as the wood pellets John added to his. Will this cause problems with my compost?

  23. Great video John, I started a compost pile in January and have been anxiously waiting for it to become active, I wish I would have had an insulated composter then…heck I wish I had it now! Unrelated to the video I was wondering if you had videos of "test beds" where you divide the bed into multiple sections to compare how different soil mixtures effect a certain vegetable. I am particularly interested to see a side by side comparison of vegetables with rock dust vs. non rock dust.

  24. I like how you speak your mind when it comes to products, you aren't doing this to make money. complete honesty! you promote raw foods which is the best diet in my opinion.

  25. Paper bags actually have a larger carbon footprint because they are heavier per bag and require more fuel to ship the same amount of bags. Plus they are cutting down trees to make them. Plastic bags, though seemingly worse, are easily recyclable and more compact (ie less fuel to ship them and less carbon footprint).

  26. Two ideas:
    1. Why not hook up a garbage disposal or a hand-cranked grinder to the compost bin so we can grind up orange peels and whatever else so there's as much surface area as possible? It would all compost faster if it was ground up fine, wouldn't it?
    2. If it makes sense to incorporate some manure… why not dog manure? … gross idea I guess? But look, I have a 70-pound dog who leaves behind a sizable load of manure behind… is it a horrible idea to include some of it in my compost?

  27. Everyting I have ever read says not to use manure from carnivourous animals like cats and dogs. I am not exactly sure why, but it could have to do with communicable diseases or the different ratio of nutrients. I have heard of composting toilets that convert human waste into usable compost. Those say that you should only use that compost on trees and in places where it won't actually contact your food directly. The grinding idea would be awesome, though.

  28. In Toronto, Canada, we have a green waste program, which gets picked up every week. The city then composts this waste. This is done all year! They also pick up dry wast

  29. Once again you've proven yourself amazing. Minor correction: Sweden's weather is surprisingly mild. Most live in mid to south; average temp rarely gets below 20.

    My city sells 40-gal recycling bins for $7. Compost in these; just takes longer… a year. With four cans, I create a constant supply, but for $28. Takes me 3 months to fill. "Compost happens." Cheaper yet, bury scraps. Dig foot-deep, dump stuff, cover with stone. Gone in a week, eaten by bugs. Bones picked clean; good minerals.

  30. John, I'm a newbie, but VERY enthusiastic composter who wishes to thank you from the bottom of my compost heap. I've learned so much from you. I've read that bacteria need water to break scraps down. You didn't mention adding water. Does the Jora composter not need water? If not, is it due to insulation? If yes, how much water do you add and how often do you add it? Again, thank you for the excellent info and research you've done. 🙂

  31. Yvonne, the food scraps I was adding contained plenty of moisture(water) to them. So much so that I had to add extra pine pellets to help soak some of it up. Yes, compost needs the right balance of moisture… not too much, but not too little.. Depending on WHAT you are adding you MAY need to add water or not..

  32. If you feed your dog only raw food and you don't use wormer, it'll break down in the yard easily in only one or two days, but I wouldn't use it in a closed system like a composter. Dogs can and do carry parasites that can survive in higher temperatures. When they poop outside, nature usually takes care of those things. Cows treated with wormers end up killing a lot of worms in the soil when they poop. Same thing with our dogs and cats.

  33. I have worms and add rabbit manure, food, cardboard and some coir/peat to get a good blend. Worms love fruit and pumpkins, I even add corn husks and let them do their thing. Happy Gardening!

  34. Hey John, Just want to thank you for all the practical and useful information you provide. I realize how much time and effort it takes to do all your videos and I just want you to know it's really appreciated!
    Namaste

  35. You know John, if you dehydrate your orange,lime and lemon peels you can chop them up and store them for later. Use them in cooking recipes. As for the compost thing heck I rather just use those free wood pallets that companies toss away. The dehydrated peels can even be powdered up too use in cooking. That might help you with your overflow of stuff that wont go into the compost when you run out of room. And it a cheap way to go. Have a goodun.

  36. I know composting in a pallet bin is harder , but Im willing to give it a go. I dont have the money to spend on a tumbler. And right now Im not in a dire hurry to get quick compost. It was just a suggestion to help John out with his overflow. There are so many ways to compost. raising worms in worm beds that are stacked is a good fast way for compost too. Have A goodun TheJushyd

  37. Its best to utilize all your "resources" onsite instead of sending them offsite. I would shred (or cut small) toilet paper rolls and add to my composter, or use them to start seeds. I probably would recycle junk mail due to the bleach/inks etc in the paper.. although you could if you wanted. Be sure to Shred is into the smallest pieces possible.

  38. the joraform appears to be airtight, but a common "myth" is that compost needs air suppy (fuel, not the band) to make the compost. Does the joraform have any vents?

  39. John you should make a video on dehydrating your citrus peels than extracting the oils out of them through your omega 8006 for use as organic floor cleaner, dishwasher soap, aromatherapy or even as a heated scented oil as a home deodorizer alternative.

  40. The best price I found on the Joraform 270 was at wayfair.com. If you subscribe to their email newsletter they will send you a 10% off coupon. Total price for me shipped to my door in Texas was 315.89.

  41. Well I received my JoraForm JK270 yesterday and like many others have posted it arrived with 4 damaged panels. The frame seems very sturdy but I found the instructions to be very poor and they did not match up with the current list of parts. The insulation makes it very difficult to fasten on the panels with the self tapping screws. I have requested replacement panels from the reseller.

  42. I have a question, what if you can't afford organic produce atm, can you compost non-organic fruits and veggies and still get good results? If so should I watch out for certain brands that may use a lot of chemicals?

  43. I always encourage buying and eating organic produce. If you cant then I recommend looking up the clean 15 and dirty dozen crops and buy the ones lower in pesticide residues. Composting may break down many toxins, but some may still remain.

  44. Hi, John. After seeing this video, my husband and I took advantage of the Boogie Brew deal. Thank you. I have a question for you, though. We had weather in the 70s and 80s and our new composter was rockin' at a temp of about 140 F. Then, two days ago, we got a freak snow storm here in the Midwest in May! It's now dead. No heat whatsoever. It's not even warm. So I'm wondering, does this REALLY work in the snow or did I do something wrong with mixing browns and greens? I'm a little upset.

  45. I picked up one of these because the reviews are the best for any tumbler. I had some trouble compressing the sides when putting it together. I found adding a 45lb weight to the sides when I had trouble compressing made things a lot easier. Since this thing roles if you add weight do it at your own risk, don't accidentally cut off you toe by a falling weight.

  46. The answer to your question is under "uploader comments". But to reiterate, usually no, most greens (food scraps, lawn clippings etc) have enouph water for the bacteria to do their job.

    The exceptions I can think of is: if your are using it solely to compost dry droppings from rabbits, etc. Then you may need to add water. Or if you are in an extremely arid environment you may need to add water when the compost is "finishing" ie when you are filling the second partition.

  47. I was told it works in the snow. Please see my latest jora video where my pile also cooled down. Despite it snowing, its important to spin it once each day to get proper airflow, or it will cool down. Also you can call the manufacturer for personal support for your situation.

  48. I got the Joraform after watching this. Aside from it being a bear to compress while assembling it, I am ecstatically happy with it. I just came in from standing over the open doors chopping vines and brown shrubbery twigs into it. and I feel like I just spent 20 minutes in a sauna. Don't have a thermometer yet, but it's cookin'! Thanks for the heads up.

  49. Hi, John. Something we've learned here with our Joraform. We had TOO MUCH CARBON in ours and that caused it to stop working! Could this be something you've been doing? We thought it was too dry or had too many greens. We added more carbon, of course. Then, when we added in our grass clippings, both sides SHOT UP to over 150 degrees overnight! Greens always seem to save the day! Thank so much, John. Hope this helps you. BTW, we just finished Monster Trellis ONE of FIVE! 😉 THANK YOU!

  50. It really helps if two people put it together . We also watched the assembly video and paused it along the way. I use mine mainly for all food scraps. When the soil is ready I usually put part of the soil in the new chamber including most of the bones that remain from the meat. Over time they come brittle enough to crash Over time they become fruitful enough to crash

  51. I forgot to mention, all you need is about 10% wood pellets to any greens or food product. I put a scoop in the bottom of my food bucket after dumping it in the composter I also try not to put heavy twigs and branches as it may puncture the vital insulation

  52. Looks like boogiebrew lied to you, there is no deal there. The price is $389.00 (delivered) which is more than the best price you said you saw on your video.

  53. If you have a chipper, can you chip up branches from your trees to use as browns instead of buying the wood pellets?

  54. hey there.. Bought one of these after this vid and loving..
    Was steaming at 110 degrees within days..

    I also had a spell where it cooled but I think I'd put too much sawdust in.
    I didn't have any greens for nitrogen so I peed in a pot and threw that in and it worked nicely.. Urea is a good source…

    Loving your vids and your effusive enthusiasm.. keep em coming..
    and shouldn't you add a 'D' onto your name…? then you'd be John Collard Greens.. ;()

  55. I've got a friend whose a carpenter.. so use sawdust instead..
    seems to work just as well and costs nothing..
    they're more than happy for me to pick it up..
    saves them a trip to get rid of it..

  56. The JoraForm is THE best.  I found out after the "wicked winter vortex" that even the Jora will freeze.. it's okay, a mere 300 miles away (St. Louis) it was colder than the south pole.. pretty sure it did what anything would do 😀 LOL  Also.. because of the winter being more cold… I confirmed with Nik that you need to keep the mixture nice and dry (drier) and add pine pellets every day and rotating every day.

    John I will have my build video up soon.

  57. Lol! John, what is on your feet? Are those some kind of sasquatch shoes? What are they? Some kind of shoe with toes!?! What the hell lol!

  58. Thank you so much for this information and also for taking the time to educate us with so many nuggets of gold…I was doing some research online for the Joraform 270 and I have found a more economical source for this composter at hayneedle.com and there's free shipping

  59. I do like the idea of an insulated tumbler, but they should've covered the insulation on the inside too. Any sharper objects like sticks or whatever can rip it apart or poke holes into it and if for whatever reason you'd want to empty and clean it, the insulation's propably gonna have ugly stains from all the moisture.

  60. Don't forget to remove those plastic sticker labels from your oranges, bananas, and other produce. As I've discovered in my own finished compost, they don't biodegrade at all. Noticed some on your oranges in the video.

  61. Jon, whats the deal here…?????
    I went to the site and found this….
    Joraform 270 composter…$418.95 , Includes shipping
    The other place you spoke of was $389.00 with free shipping

    ChiliDogg

  62. I notice you configured your Jora270 with the lids flipping down instead flipping up like it was designed. You obviously like it better this way. Why did you change it? What are the benefits of having the lids flipping down instead of flipping up?

  63. Just a quick update. My Joraform Composter is still my favorite composter after several years. It makes composting Easy. I have negotiated the best price for my viewers so you can get your Joraform at the lowest price with FREE shipping. Just go to: http://www.compostingwarehouse.com/ and use the coupon code GREEN10 (must be ALL CAPS). If you prefer to order over the phone, you can call them at 1-888-567-2270.

  64. Maybe you're just doing this to get the money on the referrals for these pieces of garbage, but please if you're actually trying to get results stop what you're doing. Build two 3'x3'x'3 side-by-side corrals (open bins) out of wood and aluminum siding. Buy a pitchfork. Fill the bins with enough browns to compensate for all these greens you're throwing in, if you want to use all that citrus throw in some lime rock or wood ash to increase the pH. A 3'x3'x3' bin will hold way more than these dinky rip-off pieces of garbage, a 5'x5'x5' bin would be even better. Turn them often enough with your pitchfork to keep the pile working at max efficiency with plenty of oxygen. If they are drying out cover them with a tarp, just be sure to turn often enough to let in the oxygen for max efficiency. Use a compost thermometer to make sure you're maintaining 140F so they're composting as fast as possible, and you'll be producing far more compost than you are now with these dinky composters that take up way too much space for the amount of compost they actually produce.

  65. Great video John! I am going to be purchasing this composter in the next week or so, thanks to your videos on it 🙂

  66. I see you`re Jora must now be arround five years old, is it stil in one piece?
    I read awfull things about it rusting thru in two or three years time.

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